From presenting the BBC’s Autumnwatch to publishing more than 10 books and publicly campaigning for wildlife protection - Chris is a passionate environmentalist who has championed nature for more than forty years.
We talked to Chris to discover what fuels his desire to protect the natural world, why he created the People’s Walk for Wildlife and his views on how the financial industry can tackle environmental challenges.
Can you tell us what ignites your passion for the natural world?
When I was a child I always had a deep affection of the natural world, I think it was the simple beauty of it and I loved the idea that individual organisms were so perfect.
As I have grown older I have found an enormous weight of guilt on my shoulders because I am part of a generation that has failed to act on protecting nature and now we’re struggling. We’ve known about the problems and developed solutions over such a long time. WWF has published a report this year saying 69% of the world’s wildlife has disappeared since 1970 - and I remember 1970 like it was yesterday. I was catching grass snakes, watching fox cubs, counting blackbirds in the pockets of greenery around my house.
I’ve turned that guilt into something positive. I’m 61 years old now and I’ve got to do as much as possible now quickly to make a difference and that’s what motivates me.
What did you learn from creating People’s Walk for Wildlife in 2018?
I put the People’s Walk for Wildlife on because I really wanted to bring all the environmental NGOs and affiliates together in one place to rub shoulders and get them to be more cohesive.
The message was quite clear – we all have commonality in our objectives and we are all passionate, we are all committed, but we’ve got to be more clever and more strategic. It also coincided with the launch of the People’s Manifesto for Wildlife, which we sent to every MP in the UK. The attack on nature is real and we’ve all seen it escalate since 2018 and we’ve all got to take action at this point. To the best of my knowledge we’ve not had a single response to the manifesto from our leaders and I can’t tell you that any of that good, informed advice was acted upon.
That’s one of the reasons we find ourselves planning another People’s Walk for Wildlife set to take place in Spring 2023.
You ended the latest BBC Autumnwatch with a poignant reminder that nature is changing, and every single living species really matters. What do you think will be the biggest impact of biodiversity loss on society?
We are dependent on ecosystem services on earth in terms of our survival. When it comes to the biggest impacts of biodiversity loss I think it will be food. We’re trashing the soil because of our farming methods, for example.
We are so disconnected from nature now, through everyday life, and from how we obtain food, we don’t recognise that it is nature that we are surviving on - and that’s very dangerous. It’s also a symbolistic thing – you cannot continue to dismember ecosystems and expect them to remain functional. The damage we’re doing today may not be visible for hundreds of years.
What role do you see for financial institutions in tackling climate and environmental challenges?
There are too many fossil fuels being burned, so one of the ways we can address that is by reducing our emissions. We can do that on a personal level, or we impact those companies which are releasing them on a far more macro level if we take away their funding. The pound in a person’s pocket is lobbying economic activism – what you choose to buy when you go to the supermarket influences what goes on the supermarket shelves.
But we also store money in banks and we invest it in pensions and I think financial institutions have an enormous ethical and moral responsibility to start withdrawing funding from those things which are very dangerous when it comes to the climate and biodiversity emergency.
I certainly don’t want my money going to fossil fuels, weapons, or any of those sorts of things. People are moving in that direction - they’re seeing and expecting that level of corporate responsibility.
How do you think Triodos Bank plays a role in delivering this change?
Banking is a big part of our lives, where we get our energy from is a big part of our lives, how we travel is another, how we are educated, how we eat – these are all very fundamental parts of our lives and when you see opportunities within those fundamental things then being able to take them is really good. It’s about being able to have that choice.
The fact that Triodos exists and people can actively make a choice to bank in that way can be incredibly empowering– and that is important because if you don’t get any form of glow, joy, empowerment or happiness then frankly you get desperation and desolation, disenfranchisement, and disenchanted!
I think it’s really important that people exercise that power of personal choice and they do feel good and want to tell people about it. We need that kind of self-empowerment and reassurance that we have the capacity – even as individuals – to make small differences and we equally recognise that if enough individuals make small differences they together make a larger, more meaningful difference.
Fantastic. What a legend Chris is. He speaks complete sense and it’s great that Triodos can provide yet another platform for his words of wisdom.
Wanted to know more about Triodos Bank, so think I should telephone the bank.
Excellent! It's vitally important that people know how dire the situation is for our environment, for the whole planetary ecosystem that our civilization utterly depends on. But as Chris says there is a often a negative response to bad news; denial, anger or just helplessness. We are in the privileged position of being able to act, so we must.
Interesting that animal agriculture isn’t mentioned, because Chris is vegan due to understanding the huge ecological damage being done by it and also the immense suffering and killing. This is a gross omission, but presumably it’s is because you fund animal agriculture. You need to stop claiming that organic animal agriculture is ethical, because it isn’t and far from reducing the amount of harm it causes, it lends legitimacy to all animal agriculture by association and it’s about time you understood that and stopped funding exploitation, misery and death.
Spot on. George Monbiot finally made just this connection too. You can't be an environmentalist and eat animals or their secretions. It's also the easiest and single biggest positive impact that an individual can make to lowering our carbon footprint. We each need to take personal responsibility as well as campaigning for Govt & institutions to change for the better.
Hi Andrew, it was not a purposeful omission and – while it is only a tiny proportion of our loan book – we remain proud of our support for UK organic, biodynamic and sustainable livestock farmers over the past 30 years. In the UK at least, we believe that in the right mix a combination of arable and a small amount of animal agriculture can deliver for people and planet. We certainly don’t believe this lends legitimacy to all animal agriculture by association and we’re very willing to acknowledge (and campaign) about the fact we have a broken global food system that must change. There is an urgent need to reduce the amount of animal products we consume and we encourage individuals to make conscious choices on this front. Meanwhile, other banks are not acknowledging this. It might be a good idea to let these banks that are funding the very worse forms of animal agriculture with little consideration of welfare or the environment know about your views? Thank you for the contribution. Kind regards, Ed
Good to have the viewpoint of a person we see on tv and respect his commitment to nature. Good for him to remind us why we need more banks to face the earth's future and not just their shareholders' short term gains.
Good! But no mention of the ‘electro-smog’ in which we’re all living. See Arthur Firstenberg’s letter to COP27 (info@cellphonetaskforce.org) It’s a critical part of the precarious situation which we’re living in and is being either ignored or denied.
Great bloke let’s all help nature survive and thrive
Very good
Inspiring!
chris to run the world
Excellent. I have follwed and admired Chris Packham ever since I first saw him on TV and also from reading his amazing book Fingers in the Sparkle Jar.
Thanks, great. After visiting the Dyfi Ospreys place we watched the osprey chicks grow up via webcam, open our mind and then heart to another species struggle for life & right to survive.
I’m glad Triodos is thoughtful about the parlours state of wildlife
We haven't got much power but we get to vote and the way we spend the money we have are ways to change things. Thanks Chris for what you do.
Very good
More power to Chris's & Triodos' elbows. The critical point he makes is that if we are to create enlightened and just societies, we must put our political and personal agendas and differences aside, and work together to ensure we put EARTH First.
Excellent. Chris is someone to trust; he 'says it like it is'.
Brill! And thankyou! It's a message that must spiral out beyond the environmentally converted. Like Chris Packham I was lucky enough to have had a real taste of the beauty of wild nature in childhood. Not so for many this start to feeling less helpless in facing today's chaos/loss of biodiversity....
And yes exploitation of the soil, our source of life. Not only from intensive farming but choking it with concrete! 'If worms weren't, we wouldn't '
Chris is an inspiration. Thank you
Hugely valuable. Banking and the finance sector in the main, are driving the engines of destruction. See makemymoneymatter.co.uk/open letter to call on the big UK banks to stop financing the fossil fuel sector's further havoc on the planet. The same sort of appeal is needed in financing commodities that are trashing ecosystems and nature planet-wide.
Very inspiring